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Topic: Strategy

Communicating A 3rd Place Position… Positively!

Posted bychoughon 1000 Points
A client of ours is very excited by some industry statistics that show they are now third in their particular market… having overtaken a major player (sorry I can't give too much away regarding which market at the moment!). And they want to communicate this… mainly to the trade channel. And they want to do this without directly knocking the opposition, particularly the major player they have just superseded.

起初,他们要求“标志”…现在,图形, it's very easy to do, but to tell the right story… Our problem is we believe the audience will think "Third place… so what?". We proposed a more informational graphic, to be included in the sales presenter, that can be explained… Our current thinking is more about being in the top 3, rather than being No.3, but the 'story' still feels a little weak.

Ideas anybody? You've never let me down before guys…
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  • Posted byGary Bloomeron Accepted
    Dear Chough,

    Although it might seem vital to your client, why is it important to the trade that this news be conveyed?

    Does the trade have a record of caring about such news? If so, why not consider reporting your tale in the same way. And if the story is as weak as you say, how can it be improved?

    What aspects of the story touch people's lives and how?

    Remember the classic VW commercial about the snow plough driver? (I spell plough like this because I'm British). In it, there was wonderment at how the man who drove the snow plough actually GOT to his snow plough.

    Answer, he drove a Volkswagen!

    How does the company at #3 get to #3? Better products? More innovation? Cleaner shirts? Smoother oil? Think literally and laterally.

    But above everything else, make your story MATTER. If readers don't connect with the story or the main character in the story, you won't have any rapport. No rapport. No relationship and therefore, no relevance.

    Your news MUST be relevant. The secret's buried in the product somewhere. Or it's buried in whatever it is that the product allows or permits people to do. The problems it solves. With me?

    But wherever it's hidden, find it, pull it out, and hold it up in the steely light of day.

    I hope this helps.

    Gary Bloomer
    Wilmington, DE, USA
  • Posted bychoughon Author
    Thanks Gary.

    If it helps, our client have a broader set of products than No1 and No2, who each dominate the market in their sector.

    So if the sector was mens clothing (it's not!) No.1 only makes shirts. No. 2 only makes trousers. Our client makes Shirts, trousers, shorts, vests, and shoes. The Number four, we've just overtaken in mens clothes make all of the above PLUS watches, cars etc. (to stretch the metaphor).

    So, yes, the story's either in A)The diversity of the offer, or B) The 'Rise' in their rankings…

    Btw… you spell plough correctly! (I'm British too!)
  • Posted bychoughon Author
    Thanks Phil. Definitely part of the story.
  • Posted byMarkitekon Accepted
    The story here is not that they're number three, but that they're growing. That's not a promotional story that's a PR story.

    你可能会问他们,如果他们想做什么number four girds up its loins and retakes number 3 position--toss all that work away? You might also remind them that if, as you say, "some industry statistics" show them as number 3, other statistics might show them as 4 still. Now they're in a "who's best" contest which nobody wins.

    Get the news out to the trade press, but convince them that making it a part of their brand identity (ie logo) carries more danger than opportunity. (I can't think of any company that's done what they're suggesting.)

    Bit of a sticky wicket.
  • Posted bychoughon Author
    Maritek.
    Some spot on alysis here. The danger of number 4 retaking the position is real, but unlikely, although they are huge in comparison to our client, there focus seems to be elsewhere at the the moment. (and our clients are on a roll… watch out Number 2!) However if we piss them off there's a real danger that focus may change.

    The stats are pretty convincing, and while it's only percentage points, they are by the trusted industry analysts, the one used by all the competition too.

    I'd be happier doing a lot of PR if we were No.1… maybe even No.2… and agree the No.3 message is way too weak to become part of their identity. What we are proposing is an informational slide/page/graphic that becomes part of face to face sales process, where the sales team have the opportunity to tell the story… put it in context, and use it as an additional "Reason to Believe" in our client as a company.

    What I think we're getting to is some kind of illustrative treatment, maybe an arrow breaking through a barrier… "we've broken into the Top 3", or the top three rungs of a ladder.

    Everything so far is spot on, but is there more, with a twist on the No. 3 story… or am I just grasping at straws.

    Thank you, everybody for your insights and help so far.
  • Posted byHarry Hallmanon Member
    I think you siad it correctly "third place-so what!"

    Why not concentrate on the positives (customer benefits) that got them to third place.
  • Posted byMarkitekon Accepted
    Ah...well that's a little different, but I think the principles are in effect nevertheless, as I think you agree.

    I'm reticent to suggest specific ideas since there's about a billion ways to skin a cat and not knowing anything about the market you're working in my chances of providing anything of value are minimal.

    I would keep a couple of things in mind though.

    First, I might want to promote the source(s) of the growth stat: if they are the respected analysts then mention them by name. Let their brand value support yours.

    Second, don't be afraid to postively mention the competition: 1, 2 and 4. You're all in a marketplace, and when any of you succeed you all succeed because the market grows.

    Now, the only place I can think of off the top of my head where number 3 has prestige is the Olympics (and similar). So you have some imagery you could borrow there: the medals, the platforms, even a treated stock shot of a race so it highlights the number 3 competitor (depending on what your logo looks like Photoshopped onto a pair of Speedos--specifically, Dara Torres').

    But for the purpose you're talking about, your graphic ideas are as good as any.
  • Posted bychoughon Author
    哈利,我们这样做。

    I clearly agree, 3rd place is not a great thing to shout about, BUT we have no option about talking about it, it's coming directly from the top marketing guy in the organisation. So it's got to happen.

    The only option is HOW we talk about it. There is also a customer benefit in an organisation that is expanding and growing their market share, in these tough times, without compromising on quality or sacrificing value.

    Thanks for the input.
  • Posted byGary Bloomeron Accepted
    Dear Chough,

    One other thing. It's already been touched on by my colleagues but my original post was written at 7a.m. and on only one cup of coffee.

    This 3rd place issue? Ignore it. It is a non issue. Ten foot pole and all that. With me?

    Don't go anywhere near it. Instead, focus on how your client's company is expanding, growing, changing, blossoming, even in these harsh economic clichéd days.

    And your client's competitors in slots 4, 2 and 1? Ignore them too. Don't even think about mentioning them. Or whatever it is they make. All that'll do is draw attention to them. Spend your client's ad money on the client.

    I hope this helps.

    Now, be off with you! Go and do something fabulously brilliant for your mysterious client.

    Gary Bloomer
    Wilmington, DE, USA
  • Posted bychoughon Author
    Thanks Maritek.
    Good stuff in there.
    It's not easy… clearly. Or I wouldn't be asking the question!
  • Posted bychoughon Author
    Thanks Gary.
    At least I'm smiling now :)
    And on my fourth of fifth strong mug of Java!

    chough
  • Posted byFrank Hurtteon Accepted
    If I understand the question, the release is intended for the trade channel to market. Your client, with their broad base of products, being in number three means the following to the channel:
    Your client is growing
    Your client offers the best opportunity to package products from several categories
    Your client being at the top in one category will effect their impact in other categories
    Your client may offer a better opportunity to "partner" in the market than other companies.

    My practice is built around channels to market. If you would like to explore this off line where we can talk about specifics - I would be happy to chat.
  • Posted on Accepted
    To add to Gary's excellent advice, the story isn't that you're number three.

    It is (partly) that you're growing (even in a recession) and you have third-party proof to back it up.

    The question is, what got your client there? What made them stand out so that they grew?

    What is their story? And, a story isn't "Man goes to jail for violating Housing Owner Association rules". A story is "Main Jailed for Brown Lawn" (a true story, by the way). What's the hook?

    Jodi
  • Posted byJay Hamilton-Rothon Accepted
    Focus on the customers who have made them #3. Why are they choosing your client? Tell their stories. Tell how much the client has helped them like no other (saving time/money). Allude to the competition ("we looked elsewhere, but we chose X because....") to show the uniqueness your client offers.
  • Posted bychoughon Author
    Frank, yep, you understand the question, and all the things you've mentioned are great supports.

    Jodi, this is what I'm looking for, great stuff.

    Jay, great stuff also.

    I'm keeping the question open in anticipation of even more wonderful insights. Thank you to everybody who's contributed so far.
  • Posted bySteveByrneMarketingon Accepted
    First of all, the third position is a very powerful position in most market segments. Positioning authors, Ries and Trout, said most markets usually shake out to three positions. Being in the top three means your brand is in the game ... four, five and six not so much.

    Mercedes
    BMW
    Audi

    Toyota - Lexus
    Honda - Acura
    Nissan - Infinity

    Think about it, in most segments there are three dominate brands, and sometimes two like the cola segment with Coke and Pepsi.

    然而,在你的例子中,the "Shirts, trousers, shorts, vests, and shoes" description is really a separate market segment from "just shirts" and "just pants". So is it possible that your client is really number one in "Shirts, trousers, shorts, vests, and shoes" by whatever naming convention.

    The test for accurate positioning goes to the perceptions in the minds of customers. If a redefined and repositioned segment claim rings true with the customers, it can be the basis for a number one position. Also, consider that it isn't always about numbers and hierarchy. NyQuil claimed the first "night time" cold medicine segment, thereby repositioning all existing cold medicines as for "day time" use. It is about those perceptions and modifying them to your brand's advantage.

    Hope this helps,

    Steve
  • Posted bychoughon Author
    Very good Steve.

    The situation is our client is a Global No.1 in a smaller, but significant category. This is where there heritage lies, and they've been a innovative leader over a number of years. However, it's a declining market, and although their market share is growing year on year, the writings on the wall. So they have diversified into a number of related markets, to offer a much broader range of products – using the kudos of the brand to leverage sales.
    This strategy is definitely working… and they are growing their market in the much broader category, the one their original product range is just a subset of. Now they're number 3.

    I really appreciate everybodys analysis and insights. Much of it has confirmed our own thinking (which is great to know!). Thank you everybody… much appreciated!

    Chough

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